What do the stormcloaks and imperials stand for

Regardless of whether or not you have previously received the quest, you can travel to the Palace of the Kings in Windhelm and talk to Galmar Stone-Fist and request to join the Stormcloaks, at which point Galmar will give you an initial test, as detailed at Joining the Stormcloaks. You can join the Imperial Legion and fight against the Stormcloaks instead.

Completing the Joining the Legion quest will cause you to automatically fail the Joining the Stormcloaks quest. However, the next quest for both sides is to find the Jagged Crown Imperial or Stormcloaks. If you choose to bring it to the other party instead, you can still join them. If the Stormcloaks had their way, they would've fought the Aldmeri to a point that assured their own destruction. This is somewhat peculiar, given the commonalities between Nords and Imperials.

They undoubtedly share a common ancestry and worship what are generally the very same deities. However, the cultural divide is vast enough to create a sort of alienation that puts them at odds with one another domestically. One good example is provided by Jarl Balgruuf's Imperial steward, Proventus, when describes the Nordic lore surrounding the Dragonborn as nonsense.

Another is given by General Tullius when he expresses misgivings concerning the Nordic sense of honor during a conversation with Legate Rikke. Put simply, Skyrim has fought, bled, and generally been a part of the Empire for hundreds of years. This is the very reasoning cited by many of the Nords when asked why they're siding with the Empire during Skyrim's civil war.

While the banishment of Talos worship is certainly an egregious offense, it still stands that Talos, also known as Tiber Septim, founded and created the very Empire that they're rebelling against. The Thalmor involvement in its affairs does complicate matters, but it could be argued that betraying the Empire is, in its own sort of way, betraying Talos himself. The very existence and relative success of the Stormcloak rebellion stand to evidence this point.

A few rogue Jarls would've proven no impediment to the pre-war Empire, and they would've found themselves swiftly crushed by its disciplined and well-trained armies. As it is, the Empire can barely afford to hold them at bay.

Even then, they're only able to contain this rebellion due to the talents of General Tullius. It can be safely assumed that Imperial troops would need to be redistributed to other parts of the Empire once the war's been concluded and that if they were barely able to outmatch a rebel uprising, an invasion would mean the province's doom. Within the world of Skyrim , one of the larger immediate consequences of a Stormcloak or Imperial victory is the shift in power across Skyrim's various holds.

Jarls that were supportive of the opposing faction will be replaced with loyal supporters instead. Characters such as Ulfric, Balgruuf and Maven Black Briar, many of which players may have strong opinions on, can either rise to or fall from power as a result of the civil war's conclusion.

Fans may want to consider who they want to see on the throne and how it could impact Skyrim's future when picking a side. Even more significant than this is the long-term effects of Skyrim 's civil war.

In the event of a Stormcloak victory, Skyrim more than likely becomes independent, freeing itself from the influence of the Empire and the Thalmor. I don't care about either sides, I have no reason to help Stormcloaks or Imperial. This is a factual observation.

Take you and some of the other more enthusiastic supporters on either sides Stormcloaks and Imperials alike People on both sides are exactly the same despite providing completely opposite arguments. I don't mind people having different opinions, that's what I always tell them, regardless of you are stormcloaks or imperials supporter. Somehow for every Imperial Supporting individual like you, there's an exactly equally opposite individual supporting Stormcloaks.

It is what my point was. But I don't believe you are incapable of facing my point. You are too deeply entrenched into your ideals of "Imperials are always correct and if you don't support my points, you are wrong in everything!

Even if I was somehow "trying to distract you from your points", I need zero effort to do so. Your argument is already debunked by the fact that the Imperials didn't force Balgruuf the Greater into it. For those who insist on continuing these toxic Imperial v Stormcloak arguments Please stop! This wiki is an encyclopedia for information about the Elder Scrolls franchise as the developers created it.

This is not a place for flame wars based on fan theory. If you insist on arguing about a fictional war, go somewhere else.